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dudebropal

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« on: April 07, 2007, 12:18:00 pm »
Hi, everyone, I\'ll try to be as brief as possible.

I\'m a male close to 30 years old. I just had a lip lift to rejuvenate my upper lip. The result was very nice, but I couldn\'t achieve my real goal, which is to be able to show my upper teeth when my mouth is relaxed, like most young people do. If the Doctor lifts it again, another 3-4 mm, I\'ll achieve my goal, but I\'m worried about the following:

Currently, my nose to upper lip distance is about 15 mm and my lower lip to chin distance is about 36 mm (I have very thin lips). That is, right now my nose to lip distance is only about 29.5% of my overall nose to chin distance (51 mm). I think this is not very aesthetic, since I believe my chin looks too long already. If the distance between my nose and upper lift becomes only 10 or 11 mm, my chin will look even longer, as the new nose to lip ratio would only be 23.5%, from the overall nose to chin distance.

I just want to know the opinion of other people, on what is an aesthetic and unaesthetic ratio, for distances between nose to lip and lip to chin, to have an idea if 23.5% is not a completely unaesthetic (or even weird-looking) ratio.

I really want my upper teeth to show and make me look younger, so I don\'t want to discard the 3-4 mm new upper lip lift. Instead, I\'d like to know how to reduce the distance between my lower lip and chin, but I can\'t afford an expensive genioplasty (chin bone reduction), and I don\'t believe it would work anyways, based on other people\'s experiences.

Any suggestions for surgery or other procedures to reduce lower lip to chin distance?

Sorry for the lengthy message, any comments or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely

"Long Chin" George G.

sarah

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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2007, 06:02:00 pm »
how did the results come out as far as scarring around the lip?

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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2007, 11:57:00 am »
You are correct in your concerns re the proportion for the two areas...in fact, the nose splay can be longer if the chin splay is longer, with or without tooth show.  Your desire for tooth show may be overplayed....sometimes it is not a good look, especially for a guy.  Penelope Cruz has a overly short nose splay and a long nose which will not age well--you will want to avoid this type of proportion as well.  I have been reading that the nose splay (space) should ideally be 7/10ths of the chin splay for the right proportion... see what your doc thinks of this.

dudebropal

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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2007, 01:57:00 am »
You are correct in your concerns re the proportion for the two areas...in
 fact, the nose splay can be longer if the chin splay is longer, with or
 without tooth show.  Your desire for tooth show may be
 overplayed....sometimes it is not a good look, especially for a guy.
 Penelope Cruz has a overly short nose splay and a long nose which will not
 age well--you will want to avoid this type of proportion as well.  I have
 been reading that the nose splay (space) should ideally be 7/10ths of the
 chin splay for the right proportion... see what your doc thinks of this.

Well, look at some of the guys considered the sexiest on show biz... Cruise, Di Caprio, Damon, etc. they all show their upper teeth when their mouth is relaxed, Cruise is 44 or something and looks much younger than his age, hence he got this much younger beauty, Katie Holmes (27 years old, he could even be her father!) so I believe his upper teeth showing definitely helps his younger look... That\'s what I\'m based on. Generally speaking, people showing their upper teeth look younger than those not showing them, and far younger than those showing their lower teeth.

On the other hand, why do you say "Cruz has an overly short nose splay and a long nose which will not age well"? That would be my case now, and I don\'t look old at all, in fact, my face looks much younger than my real age. But my nose is slightly turned up, as opposed to Cruz\'s, maybe that helps, who knows.

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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2007, 02:10:00 am »
You are correct in your concerns re the proportion for the two areas...in
 fact, the nose splay can be longer if the chin splay is longer, with or
 without tooth show.  Your desire for tooth show may be
 overplayed....sometimes it is not a good look, especially for a guy.
 Penelope Cruz has a overly short nose splay and a long nose which will not
 age well--you will want to avoid this type of proportion as well.  I have
 been reading that the nose splay (space) should ideally be 7/10ths of the
 chin splay for the right proportion... see what your doc thinks of this.

In my last message, I meant to say "IN show biz", not "ON show biz". sorry for the typo.

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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2007, 10:50:00 am »
George which type of lip lift procedure did you have?  Any pics of the lip area that you\'d be willing to share?

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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2007, 07:01:00 pm »
You can have a genioplasty with an oral/maxillofacial surgeon.

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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2007, 04:43:00 am »
Try lifting your top lip a little, if it looks good, then go for it.  You can always address your chin concerns later.---
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2007, 09:33:00 am »
Try lifting your top lip a little, if it looks good, then go for it.  You
 can always address your chin concerns later.

Thanks a lot 4 the response.

Yeah, it looks good when I lift it. Problem is, I measured again. Actually, my nose to upper lip distance is only 10 mm, and the lower lip to chin is 36 mm. If my upper lip is lifted more, my lip to nose distance will only be seven or six mm!! I don\'t even know if there\'s people with  such measurement (upper lip too close to nose). That\'s the only way my upper teeth would show a bit. Obviously, currently I canĀ“t afford surgery to reduce the length of my nose 10 mm or more, to alow more free space for my upper lip to be lifted.

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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2007, 01:39:00 am »
how did the results come out as far as scarring around the lip?

So far, so good, today is the 19th day after surgery. You have to be very close to my nose to be able to see the scar, and it is so thin it really doesn\'t look like a scar. Actually, it\'s virtually impossible to tell I had surgery, but my lips look definitely much younger and better, despite the short distance to my nose.

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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2007, 04:40:00 pm »
The long nose, short moustache proportion is often called "denture mug"...it is a look that aged people can sometimes get because the nose elongates visually and the mouth can actually look closer to the nose if there are tooth issues like missing teeth, or dentures which lead to bone loss.  Anyway, that is a far throw from what we are trying to hash out, suffice it to say that the characteristic you refer to are very individually independent.  You can achieve the tooth show you desire, but keep in mind that you want to avoid feminizing that area of your face, especially if you have an upturned nose or a small nose tip.